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Last week, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis brought about 50 immigrants from San Antonio, Texas, to Martha’s Vineyard, Massachusetts. Some of these migrants said they were actively misled about where they were being sent and what awaited them when they arrived. They have since filed a lawsuit, accusing DeSantis and other state officials of executing “a premeditated, fraudulent and illegal scheme” in which vulnerable people were used as political supporters. the New Yorker Staff writer Jonathan Blitzer has written extensively on the politics and politics of the southern border. He talks with guest host Tyler Foggatt about rogue Border Patrol practices, the surge of asylum seekers from Venezuela, and why Republican governors are “calling the shots” on Biden’s immigration agenda.